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traditional conservative populism of a jackson or a reagan. certainly, when a country manages to deal with such deadlocks or to change the direction, it comes only through presidential leadership. it doesn't come through any other means. so, you've got a lot of red here, and that may be a good harbinger for your party but it does not say anything about how the country is going to move forward in terms of what you promote. so, given all of that -- if you buy any of it -- to what extent do you see any way in the world that the next four years will be anything other than a continuation of the last four, -- struggling, muddling through, kicking the can down the road and not really dealing with the fundamental problems of america? >> 3 very good questions. i would say that obama's first term has two parts -- before and after the 2010 election, just as the clinton administration was also two parts. they never talk about -- the talk about the last six years, when republicans were present, -- were present, with welfare reform, but they never talk about the first two years when democrats ran e
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